“God Never Blinks” -Regina Brett
TN By Fenic
SCP-173, The Sightless Idol of the SCP Foundation.
Weeping Angel, The Lonely Assassins of Doctor Who.
Don’t look away, don’t blink, keep reading this blog. For as soon as you turn your eyes away, one of these combatants will kill you. Stakes are high, so will the Peanut crack the lonely assassin spirit? Or will the Weeping Angel send this peanut out of time? Come along to Saul’s VS Blog to find out who would win a DEATH BATTLE
Before We Go Anywhere
This is an inherently strange blog with an incredibly easy media list. Due to the inherent nature of SCP canon, that of malleable writing, we’ll be allowing SCP 173 all official articles, relevant stories, and translated media from the international branches.
Analysing a Weeping Angel is simple. We’ll be looking at appearances across TV, minisodes, Comics, Novels, Short Stories, and Big Finish audio, as canon is just as malleable with Doctor Who due to re-writes and retcons.
For the sake of transparency and clarity, there were two pieces of media I was unable to get my hands on. Classic Doctors and New Monsters, and Doom Coalition four. I’ve done some research using other sources on these, so the facts will still be covered.
The difficulty comes in doing a fight like this. Analysing a single Weeping Angel loses out on a lot of the fear factor and charm of the monsters, as they’re pack hunters with multiple different versions. So we’ll be treating this like a species/army fight. There will be many versions of Weeping Angels considered in the forms segment of the blog, which’ll be a part of the fight.
With all that being said, keep your eyes on this blog.
WARNING: THIS BLOG WILL CONTAIN FLASHING IMAGES
Background
Credit to good friend Fenic for these background images
SCP-173
Moved to Site-19 in 1993. Origin is as of yet unknown.
As a work of art, 173 has as many backstories as it does interpretations. A consistent origin is that it is one of the first creations of an anartist. A statue made from rebar, concrete, and sometimes more gruesome materials, with war paint made from Krylon brand spray paint.
Whether its origins be cosmic or mundane, 173 was eventually obtained by the budding organisation known as the SCP Foundation. From there, 173 would go on to terrify everything that happened to cross its path, whether they be test subjects, site managers, or gods made flesh; all who encountered the statue were forced to respect its beauty, or pay the price.
Weeping Angel
Long before time, long before the universe, the Weeping Angels existed. A species that used to feed on the energy of the universe to live. They spoke in choruses, and it was heavenly. Unfortunately for them, the Weeping Angels had to feed. Just like you and I have to eat, Weeping Angels have to feed on energy. They travelled the universe and found Earth.
Within lore, Weeping Angels aren’t based on statues; statues are based on them. People began to build, meld, and create. The Weeping Angels were in a new heaven, a hunting ground where they could feed. People disappear all the time, right? Unfortunately for the Weeping Angels, they weren’t the biggest predator on Earth; The Doctor was.
The Weeping Angels have encountered The Doctor many times. They sent him back in time, trapped him underground, and even killed his companions. But no matter what, the Doctor always prevails. So, the Weeping Angels changed, becoming a part of The Division, an organisation based on Time Lords. While not all Angels followed, those who did were found with luxury. Just never take your eyes off them for too long.
Experience
SCP-173
Thumbnail by Vyntage
SCP 173 has been killing people for a long time and has acquired some tricks along the way. It will hide in corners to prevent people from seeing it when they enter a room, will close doors to prevent people from escaping, break doors so they can't be opened, strategically leave doors open or closed to give it the most freedom of movement, and has even smashed the controls of an on site nuke so it couldn’t be used against him. It was even smart enough to destroy the floor it was standing on, allowing it to fall to a lower floor where it couldn’t be immediately observed.
It has the awareness to figure out when there are only a couple of foundation personnel in a building, knows where they probably are, and can go there immediately. It also has an intrinsic knowledge of what time it is, allowing it to be aware when the Foundation doesn’t send in D Class to clean its chamber when they are supposed to.
It can also talk, but only certain anomalies seem to be able to understand it. It also seems to have learned how to read.
Weeping Angel
Weeping Angels have been around since before the universe and time itself. They used to feed on the universal energy that the world provided, but they needed to learn to hunt and forage for food. They mastered stealth, how to hunt prey, and generally became unstoppable monsters. This particular Weeping Angel describes its species as an army, a flock, soldiers that can never see each other. Weeping Angels are also strong tactical fighters, capable of causing multiple wars on Earth in the 3000s.
This reputation isn’t for nothing. The Doctor describes them as having “The perfect defence mechanism,” and they have constantly put him on the back foot. Blink is a notable example of this, where the Doctor is trapped in the past and requires Sally Sparrow's help. But in episodes like Village of the Angels, Time of the Angels, and Angels Take Manhattan, they’ve lured and manipulated The Doctor right into their hands. Angels Take Manhattan shows how Weeping Angels can dominate specific locations, creating a battery farm in New York by constantly zapping victims back to the same location.
They’re also deadly and intelligent. Weeping Angels have piloted the TARDIS and created many schemes. During Wink, the Weeping Angels struggled to get into the city due to its reflective walls, despite the inhabitants being blind. The Weeping Angels' solution was simple: cover their eyes until the gates open. They were also picked to be a part of The Division, a Time Lord ran task force.
Equipment
SCP-173
Blåhaj
A regular stuffed shark is permanently stuck to 173. Also capable of pacifying anyone in the vicinity. When an entity is within the vicinity of one of these stuffed sharks, they experience heightened levels of dopamine and serotonin.
These are capable of working on both 173 and SCP 939, the latter being particularly notable as 939 instances do not have brains.
Weeping Angel
Psychic Paper and Envelope
Mark was a young man who was sent into the past by a Weeping Angel. Just before he got sent back, Mark found an envelope containing certain instructions that he had to follow when he went to the past to not break time. This letter and envelope were psychic paper, which mimicked the handwriting of Mark himself, with the envelope containing his name. Turns out that the Weeping Angels had written down these instructions to manipulate Mark into causing a time paradox.
Powers and Abilities
SCP-173
Violence
Art by @KinoZukna
“Object is reported to attack by snapping the neck at the base of the skull, or by strangulation.”
SCP 173’s most iconic trait is that anyone, or anything, in its vicinity who is not looking at it will have their neck snapped by 173. The reason varies, sometimes it’s due to a twisted desire to always have someone facing, sometimes it just likes the sound it makes. Regardless, it is consistent in its lethality.
In addition, the method it uses to break someone’s neck can also vary. While it is perfectly capable of snapping someone’s neck the old-fashioned way, it can also snap someone’s neck without actually making physical contact. When this happens, the head is twisted towards 173 so fast that the spine is severed, despite 173 never making physical contact. Your eyes are similarly forced open.
In addition, anyone who has their neck broken by 173 also has their eyes follow 173 post-mortem.
Interestingly, it doesn’t always go for the kill. It once put someone into a headlock.
Death Induction
Art by SCP Explained
I can only describe this as the ability to kill just about anything, even things that really shouldn’t be killed by physical trauma.
173 doesn’t just do physical damage that can be ignored if you don’t care about that kind of thing. 173 seems to be a lethal threat to basically anything it encounters, including anomalies that would normally just heal from anything 173 could do.
This includes demons with malleable bodies, SCP 053, who can heal any injuries, Bobble the Clown, who can come back after dying, SCP 1129 and SCP 1959, who don’t even have traditional 3D bodies, and most notably, SCP 682, the hard-to-destroy reptile. In a prolonged encounter, any of these entities would die to 173 despite their resistance.
It is important to note that 173 cannot one-shot all of these characters; regeneration will keep you safe for a little bit. SCP 106 was able to fight it for months in a 1v1 and eventually defeated it. It required over 100 copies of 173 to eventually kill 682 to the point that it died for good. But if 173 kills you enough times, you’re staying down.
Waste Production
Art by u/XxX_MLG_FOXY_XxX
173 can will a combination of blood and faeces into existence. Usually used to force people to clean up their refuse as a way to get attention, it has also been utilised for a variety of other purposes.
It can spawn this substance wherever it wants within a certain range, as technology designed to permanently observe it fails, as the faeces and blood either cover their camera lens or spawn inside their inner workings, destroying it. It’s theorised it could even spawn this substance inside human bodies if it wanted to.
The stench of this “offal” can cause eyes to water, and it can alter the chemical composition of its residue to the point that it can eat through carbon nanotube grates. A high enough volume of the substance is capable of busting through locked containment chamber entrances.
Technology Manipulation
Video by Markiplier
It can seemingly make the lights flicker in its room whenever it wants.
Multiplication
Art by @kryptidcreative
On an unknown day, 173 began to multiply “identical copies”, each splitting into two. Once it begins to multiply, every additional instance also begins to multiply, growing their total number exponentially. In one tale, they were able to multiply at least 6 times in less than an hour. This would mean it would take at most 8 ½ minutes for every multiplication. At the end of the first hour, we have 64 173’s. After 2 hours, there would be 8,192 173’s. After 3 hours, there would be 1,048,576 173’s. And so on and so on. It makes sense they’d be able to take over the world after this.
These copies have a hive mind, where their intelligence increases with the amount of nearby copies, making their tactics increase exponentially along with their numbers.
There are multiple versions of this event. The original, where they are all identical copies, and the second version, where they all have drastically different designs.
It can also give birth to mini 173s out of his refuse.
A Sense of “Smell”
173 can always tell who Doctor Shaw is, regardless of what body he is in, by “smelling” him. This is pretty impressive considering the only trait that carries over when Shaw takes over a body is brainwaves.
Shapeshifting
Art by @malcrow7
173 can change the colour, shape, material, and size of its body drastically in less than a second. As an example, it once changed its arms into a thousand metal bands that reached the ceiling.
However, it’s possible this ability isn’t combat applicable, as it has only shown significant use of this ability in an alternate timeline where it got the attention it craves, fully satisfied.
Adhesion
173 can stick objects to its body and keep them there, possibly as an extension of its ability to shapeshift. This is seen when a blåhaj was put in 173’s cell, and 173 attached it to its body. The adhesion is strong enough to prevent the foundation from removing it, although how hard they tried is unknown.
Anomalous Movement and Survivability
Video by Jordan Productions
An under-appreciated aspect of 173 is that he is not a living organism, but an “inanimate” object that is somehow moving. Physical damage doesn’t matter to it, its material was still animate even when all that remained was its rebar “skeleton”. There’s even an implication that its concrete can move when reduced to gravel.
Immortality
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An interesting ability it has is that it doesn’t age or degrade over time. Outside of its paint wearing away, it will outlast the planet itself and will exist alone until the end of time.
It is also immortal in that it will “recreate itself in a new form at a later date”, and this can only be circumvented by a specific but unknown entity. We will never be truly free of the terror 173 represents. 173 is even able to reconstruct itself in an extremely short period after being chopped into multiple pieces.
However, there is a limit. 173 has been reduced to gravel by the foundation on multiple occasions, and to dust by itself and 106 before. While 173 will come back at some point, a thorough enough destruction will incapacitate it for the time being.
Nonlinear Perception of Time
173 doesn’t perceive events chronologically. It experiences every tale as they are written, and its perception will always return to the state it’s in in its official article. This strange perspective likely ties into its…
Meta Awareness
In this tale, it is revealed that 173 is aware of various things, including:
An origin where it was an infant torn away from its mother, and now seeks comfort in the form of physical contact
An origin where it is Lot’s wife, turned to stone and salt by looking at a city as it was smitten by an angel
An origin where it is an idol possessed by a wrathful, angry god
An origin where it is a prophet of Mekhane, broken when its god was broken
An origin where it is a prototype of a human made by Prometheus, thrown away as a failed first attempt, hateful and jealous of humans given a chance, it wasn’t
A slave who escaped by only moving when it wasn’t seen
Its existence as an eternal prisoner of the foundation
It’s nature as a hunter, explicitly not an artist
An origin as an artist who poured their blood, sweat, tears, and soul into their magnum opus until it became one with their creation
An origin as a simple statue with a simple anomaly made by AWCY
Its existence as the irl Untitled 2004, an irl wooden statue made by Izumi Kato, who was “stolen” by horror writers and given a meaning it was never supposed to have
The fact that it doesn’t exist
The fact that it is fictional, that it is an article made of 233 words, and that it inspires fear, as well as inspires the entire SCP Foundation website
The reader
The fact that the reader could turn it into something else
What does this mean for this blog? …..Not much really. It’s cool, but it’s awareness snapping back to the original article at the end of any story doesn’t stop it from dying in said story. Its awareness of the nature of the SCP website is also cool, but that doesn’t impact how it acts. It’s fully content to abide by its nature, a relatively simple killer. Its nature seems to be a constant, and based on the ending of Crack, if it ever rejected its nature, perhaps it wouldn’t be scp 173 anymore. Either that, or turn into the Koitern, but we’ll get into that later.
Weeping Angel
Angel Physiology
Nobody knows what a Weeping Angel is. Famously, they’ve evolved a very potent defensive technique. Upon being seen by another living creature, they become quantum-locked, becoming stone. This is a biological fact and something that an Angel cannot choose to break. However, interestingly, Weeping Angels can choose to make themselves quantum locked if they believe something is looking at them. Despite being quantum-locked, all of their abilities work the same as if they were real.
Weeping Angels feed on “potential energy,” letting you live to death—all the time you would’ve spent living. Every second, minute, and year, feeds a Weeping Angel. But it’s not just potential energy that Angels can feed on. In Touched by an Angel, a Weeping Angel sends Mark back ten years ago to force a time paradox, knowing that the Old Mark would likely seek out and interact with the younger version of himself and feed on that. Early Weeping Angels, ones who existed around the dawn of time, could absorb the very energy of the universe and use it like food. What’s an interesting note about its feeding is that the more important a person was to history, the bigger the meal the Weeping Angel gets. Weeping Angels, as a sense of justice, are capable of absorbing entire people’s timelines and using the time energy on themselves.
Also, Weeping Angels can see in the dark and climb on walls.
BFR
The most iconic part of a Weeping Angel is their ability to send you back in time. One touch from an Angel sends you back in time, with the same Angel able to same you back to the same time. Billy and The Doctor ended up at the same time due to this, and the same with Amy and Rory.
When you’re sent back in time, you cannot interact with anyone you would’ve known without causing permanent damage to the universe. For example, after Billy was sent back in time due to the Angels, he wanted to seek out Sally Sparrow but had to wait till the day they first met so their timelines crossed. If he had chosen to seek her out earlier, he could’ve potentially torn a hole in space and time and destroyed two-thirds of the universe.
Interestingly enough, Weeping Angels can choose the exact place where they can send you. When the Baby Cherubs touched Rory, they chose to only move him in space instead of both space and time. Of course, Weeping Angels can send you back as far as they want. Some examples include sending you back from the twenty-first century to 1945,
Transmutation
The second touch of a Weeping Angel turns you to stone and causes you to explode. A group of Weeping Angels were also able to transmute The Doctor into a Weeping Angel to transport her.
Technology Manipulation
While Weeping Angels are limited by biology, they have ways to overcome their inherent weakness. One of them includes being able to manipulate technology, such as causing lights to flicker by simply pointing at them.
This technological manipulation is far deadlier than one may think. They can cause deadlock in technological systems that don’t have a deadlock and can make a door physically impossible to get through to the point where torches go cold on contact.
Once, a Weeping Angel only existed through corrupted data and appeared through a phone. This gave the Weeping Angel access to the entire phone.
Image Manifestation
The image of an Angel becomes an Angel itself. Any picture of an Angel, any recording, can physically manifest into a Weeping Angel. The Weeping Angel created through this is an actual Weeping Angel, as The Doctor describes it as “getting a look at them when it comes through this TV. The amount of digital manifestations that a Weeping Angel can create has no upper limit. When Amy and the Doctor caught a magician ready to film a Weeping Angel, they feared that each TV could spawn an individual Angel, leading to millions of Weeping Angels.
This can be prevented by closing the source of said Angel. For example, Amy Pond manages to pause the recording of an Angel on a “blip,” which prevents it from existing or simply destroying whatever they’re crawling through, although that doesn’t always work.
This leads into..
Possession
As eyes are the window into the body, staring into the eyes of a Weeping Angel can allow it to climb into you. This can only take a second; a single glimpse of a Weeping Angel can cause this. This possession was so potent that it managed to affect the Heavenly Host, an entirely artificial machine.
While inside of you, the Weeping Angel makes you suffer from many symptoms. You begin to leak stone from your eyes, you periodically count down from 10, you believe that you’re turning to stone, and you’ll eventually start dying. The Weeping Angel is trying to climb out of your body.
Another way that this possession can work is by turning you into a Weeping Angel. The Doctor describes that when they enter your eye, it can change you from the inside out. This manifests as psychological changes within an individual, such as spawning wings out of an individual. This possession can affect an unlimited number of individuals, as a viral post of a Weeping Angel managed to cause entire cities to fall in a day.
The only way to delay your death is to close your eyes, which prevents it from being able to climb out. This isn’t a permanent solution, as reopening your eyes for even a second could cause your death, and it took the angel being erased from existence itself to get out of Amy’s eye.
One lone Weeping Angel was also capable of accessing The Doctor's mind after The Doctor gave consent. Of course, The Doctor’s mind is a huge universe that The Weeping Angel struggled to understand until The Doctor created a maze for it to travel through. Weeping Angels are also capable of forcing themselves into people’s minds without consent.
Digital Interaction
Weeping Angels that exist within a screen can interact with the image of you on a screen. For example, a version of you exists on a TV. If a Weeping Angel exists in that TV, it can BFR the real you by interacting with the screen version of you.
Energy Absorption
As outlined in the physiology section, Weeping Angels absorb and drain potential energy to keep themselves alive, but they can drain far more than just potential energy. In Blink, the Doctor feared that the Weeping Angels could drain the energy from the TARDIS; if they got inside, they could cause enough damage to shut off the sun. Within Flesh and Stone, the Alplan Angels were capable of absorbing Radiation, which restored their forms after starving, with The Doctor predicting there would be an army of them in an hour.
Voice Mimicry
By ripping out your cerebral cortex, a Weeping Angel can animate a version of your consciousness to talk to you. This can be used for multiple things, such as learning information, communicating with the enemy, or taunting you. Angels can also take your voice before death, as they stole Jerico’s voice.
Regeneration
After being blown up by The Doctor using his Sonic Screwdriver, this Weeping Angel regenerates moments later.
Ok, as random as this feat is, it has some consistency. Weeping Angels have been shown to regenerate objects linked to them to reform them into images. When the 13th Doctor tore apart a Weeping Angel drawing, the picture ended up putting itself back together and Weeping Angels with enough time energy can glow and regenerate.
Telepathy
Though they can’t naturally talk, Weeping Angels have shown some level of telepathy with certain people. When Miss Quirke made a deal with the Major Arcana, she found it speaking in her head and giving her information. When Peggy was sent back in time by the extraction team, they stated they’d not harm her anymore.
What’s most interesting about their telepathy is that they can be psychically linked to objects. When Miss Quirke sent River Song to Major Arcana Angel, she stated that the coin had to enter the slot as she was travelling by a fairground ride, which sends a signal to let the Angel know she’s coming.
Most interestingly, Weeping Angels operate on some-sort of hivemind. When the Weeping Angels first began to hunt, they learned to sing-speak through each one of their heads, hearts, and minds. This developed so well that when a Weeping Angel tried to break away from its flock, the others could both sense its emotions and communicate with it through telepathy.
Quantum Extraction
Weeping Angels can isolate a location in space and time through Quantum Extraction. They managed to isolate Medderton at two different times.
Flight
Despite them being stone, those wings work. The first Weeping Angels of the universe were capable of travelling long distances using their wings, and Touched by an Angel shows angels using wings.
Mist Creation
Not everywhere is going to have some technology that you can manipulate, so Weeping Angels learned how to produce the Mist of Sorrow. This mist is a portable hunting ground that Weeping Angels can take with them.
Kiss of An Angel
Yes, this is real. The Weeping Angels can perform a “kiss,” either through a touch or, quite literally, kissing an angel. The kiss of a Weeping Angel creates a duplicate of the individual it kisses, an exact copy. Unfortunately, these clones can only last up to two weeks before they decay and die.
A kiss of an angel can also cause the figure to crack like stone before crumbling into a pile of dust.
Duplication
Within Wink, A Weeping Angel feeds on The Doctor. This leads to the Weeping Angel producing Cherubs, at least six at the first touch, and eventually eighty-one. These cherubs are all interlinked with the main Weeping Angel who created them, feeding off the same time energy.
Size Manipulation
Turns out Weeping Angels can shrink themselves into packages before jumping out.
Mind Control
In a small Italian village, the Weeping Angels were capable of using their powers to convince a town to release them by “working its will” on them.
Sun Blockage
In the future, Weeping Angels are stated to have dimmed the sun. We have no context for how they did this.
Statue Manipulation (Debatable)
It’s implied many times throughout Doctor Who that every statue is a Weeping Angel. River Song directly states that, given the battery farm they’ve created, it’s like they’ve taken over every statue in the city. Further evidence of this is shown during the ending of Blink, which shows a montage of multiple statues in the city while playing The Doctor’s famous speech, implying that all of these are Weeping Angels. This would make sense, given how they managed to have the Statue of Liberty under control.
Forms
SCP-173
SCP-173-1
Art by @elmichiart
SCP 173 is a parent! Born from the refuse of 173, 173-1 is essentially just a smaller 173, except it goes for the ankles instead of the neck.
Variant Sculptures
Art by @anafabulaic
When 173 duplicates, its copies can take on varying forms. While fundamentally the same, there are some notable differences in a few instances. Some can change colors, some have much longer arms, some take the form of a praying mantis, some have tendrils, some have 360 degree vision, some are much larger than normal, some can float, some have many arms, some appear to have a Pokemon evolution, some have a traffic light for a head, some have a drill, and some can form hand constructs out of their residue.
The Koitern
Art by @praira_ko
This is 173’s original form, from the multiverse before the current multiverse. Before he was a statue, he was an emperor who conquered worlds, who was capable of wiping out whole armies of 682’s countrymen. Similar to the 173 we know, he will not kill you so long as you meet his gaze, but will still kill you when you look away or blink. Interestingly, it seems to have an additional ability, where it is unkillable as long as it meets the gaze of its attacker. This is how it was able to survive the destruction of its original multiverse. By staring down its destruction.
How does the Koitern work? Can 173 even access it in this fight?
In the canon where the Koitern exists, it seems there are two ways entities went from the old universe to the new one. For most entities, it seems that they are the exact same now as they always were. But for some, they were changed during the process of travelling to the new realm. The example of this we know the most about is SCP 053. In the old universe, she was an entity named Sarai-ur-Ebaou. She had died, and her spirit was travelling to some sort of afterlife, but before she made it, the storm that destroyed her universe wiped it away, making it so the only place her spirit could go would be the new universe. Which caused her life to fuse with the life of a child named Abby Johnson. This fusion of the entity's nature and the child’s life became the SCP 053 we know.
Since 173 is clearly different from the Koitern of the old universe, the only conclusion we can draw is that the Koitern went through a similar experience. It survived the destruction of the old universe in some form, then fused with another life in the new universe. This makes sense, given the numerous proposed backstories for 173 where a living human is trapped inside 173’s concrete body.
So if that’s how 173 works, how does it gain access to the Koitern’s power? 053 was able to gain access to its old power by using a device that allowed it to have an internal dialogue with its varying aspects and come together as a more cohesive fusion. It’s possible 173 could do this under very specific circumstances, but not really. 173 already has extremely in-depth knowledge of its nature and existence, more so than basically any other character on the SCP Wiki. It would have to receive some incredibly specific mental prodding from an extremely thorough and capable mental manipulation to access its old capabilities.
In conclusion, there’s practically no way for 173 to access the Koitern under normal circumstances.
Metanormalcy
In the beginning, before the existence of history, concepts, or narratives, there is the Metanormalcy, and the Metanormalcy is all that there is. The Metanormalcy split in two, casting a shadow. From that shadow came Existence, and Existence was all things anomalous and non-anomalous.
Metanormalcy manifested in spacetime as SCP 173.
So, how does 173 access the power of the Metanormalcy? It doesn’t. They exist concurrently, and the Metanormalcy doesn’t have anything like a will or agency. Theoretically, if you destroy everything anomalous in Existence, Existence will collapse into the shadow of the Metanormalcy, and the SCP Foundation Website will restart, but I wouldn’t call that combat applicable.
This is just a possible explanation for why 173 has an awareness of all canons it is involved in and perceives continuity weirdly.
Weeping Angel
Cherubs
Functionally, the same as Weeping Angels, just smaller and capable of giggling. These are the babies of Weeping Angels that eventually grow up into the horrific statues we see.
Statue of Liberty
The most famous example, the Statue of Liberty, is a Weeping Angel. According to Steven Moffat, the statue of Liberty worked because New York was a nest of Angels and people were farm animals. That it could move and hunt as it wished. Oh, it also tiptoed.
Major Arcana/Hosts
Within the Carnival of Angels story, we’re introduced to Major Arcana Angels. These are large Weeping Angels that command the smaller ones. River Song found out about one living inside of a carnival ride that would feed on people who went to “heaven.”
Phone Weeping Angel
A Weeping Angel who only existed in a phone, capable of causing damage by corrupting and manipulating the data on said phone.
Feats
SCP-173
Overall
Potentially more aware of how the SCP website works than any other SCP character
Makes 106 so scared, he’s still afraid even after 173 is just dust
682 wants no beef with it
Somehow still perpetually unsanitary even after everything anomalous in the universe becomes non-anomalous
It is essentially the Alpha and the Omega. It was the first anomaly, and it will be the last anomaly.
It is the Ghost of Christmas Future
It is the only SCP in the Minions crossover that stays in character
It is always portrayed as the most dangerous thing in the room, no matter what character or anomaly it’s with
According to SCP 978, a camera that shows your greatest desires, 173 is currently living its greatest desire. It’s exactly where it wants to be.
It has the highest-rated page on the site
Quite literally started it all
Strength
Art by Maxalate
A mini SCP 173 is capable of snapping an adult human’s leg
Can bust through a sub window meant for the bottom of the ocean.
Used as a weapon by the shark punching centre, and should thus be capable of killing sharks via blunt force trauma
Can force open a reinforced foundation door meant to keep anomalies out
Can uproot trees and send cars flying just by moving past them at extreme speeds (62.2 - 357.8 tons of TNT)
Durability
Art by Endet15
It takes 17 swings from a sledgehammer to reduce it to rubble
Survives being inside the sun as it destroys the Earth by turning into a red giant (DEBATABLE)
Surviving inside the surface of a red giant (0.22 tons of TNT)
Surviving inside the core of a red giant (9.84 kilotons of TNT)
Surviving a white dwarf (9.84 tons of TNT)
Can survive its movement speed (62.2 - 357.8 tons of TNT)
Survived a warhead going off (DEBATABLE)
(KOITERN) Survives the destruction of the multiverse
Speed
Video by Jordan Productions
Can dodge a sledgehammer mid-swing
Can kill 131 people in a few minutes
Moves between frames of a video camera
Has an average speed of 20-22 meters per second
Can escape the moon’s gravity (Mach 6.99)
Can move 10cm and snap a neck in less than .00001 seconds (Mach 21.15)
Can cross continents in minutes (Mach 97.2-233.2)
Weeping Angel
Overall
Incredibly Iconic creatures who didn’t exist in Classic Who
Described as having “Infinite evil” by those who encounter it
Managed to survive in this universe for so long
Used New York as their hunting grounds
Killed Amy and Rory
Canonically are capable of falling in love with each other (Gay?)
Strength
Far from their preferred tactic, a Weeping Angel can snap necks
A group of Weeping Angels could shake the TARDIS
Durability
Immune to bullets
Stated to be unkillable while in their stone form
It was only partially damaged by having a hand grenade go off in its hand
Just being at the centre of our sun (764.04 Tons of TNT)
They survive being at the centre of a red giant (4866.5 Tons of TNT) (Debatable)
Speed
Moves across a field in seconds
Moves faster than the blinking eye Duh)
Appears in front of the TARDIS in mere moments
Moves between the frames of film reels
Stated to “Travel at the speed of death.” According to the 12th Doctor
At the beginning of the universe, the Weeping Angels travelled across the universe to the “Farthest Galaxies” to find food 300.21 Trillion X SOL)
Resistances
SCP-173
The Ocean: SCP 173 is capable of crossing oceans to travel to different continents
Extreme Heat: Could survive being inside a red giant star and a white dwarf star.
Extreme Cold: Can survive in space indefinitely.
Damage: SCP 173 is a sentient and anomalous statue, so damage done to its body is fundamentally not a big deal. It is even sentient after being reduced to gravel, although at that point it can’t do much beyond tripping people.
Corrosion: It took SCP 106 months to fully corrode 173 to dust.
Death Induction: 173 is a threat to SCP 053, even though anything that attacks 053 dies, including creatures made of stone.
Quantum/Atomic Existence Erasure: 173 was able to survive being targeted by Project 001: “Twins of God”. This attack alters the quantum makeup of whatever it targets to render the target non-existent. More specifically, it unbinds atoms at a quantum level, normally completely and utterly vaporising anything.
Fear Manipulation: As 173 is a threat to all travellers (more on that later), he would be a threat to SCP 303, and thus should be able to overcome 303’s ability to instil insurmountable paralysing fear.
Mind Control: As 173 is a threat to all travellers (more on that later), he would be a threat to SCP 993, and thus should be able to overcome 993’s mind control.
Mental Manipulation/Pacification: SCP 343, otherwise known as capital G God, tried to turn 173 into a normal person and place him in an alternate reality, but no matter what 343 changed about 173, he could not change 173’s nature as a killer. Fun fact, a blåhaj was capable of pacifying 173, which means in the SCP verse, the mass-produced stuffed sharks have layered emotional manipulation surpassing that of God himself.
Weeping Angel
Extreme Cold: Weeping Angels can survive within frozen water, are unaffected by the Snow of Trenzalore, and travel across space. As established in the Interstellar Song Contest, space is so cold that it instantly freezes you.
Extreme Heat: The 10th Doctor states that the sun will only hold the Weeping Angels for a couple of million years, implying they’re unbothered by the heat
Radiation: The Aplan Angels can absorb and use radiation from a ship as power
Existence Erasure Debatable): Rory and Amy, during Angels Take Manhattan, caused a Paradox so strong that it poisoned the Weeping Angels and rewrote reality. While most Weeping Angels died off, one Weeping Angel survived, although incredibly damaged.
Scaling
All scaling images were made by a friend of the blog, Flip.
SCP-173
SCP-616
616-1 is an aeroplane door that is a portal to a hell of some sort. In the Just Fragments storyline, instances of 173 are capable of killing demonic entities that come from the 616-1 portal.
The Foundation have a fail-safe consisting of nuclear devices with a combined yield of at least 10 megatons, implying that lesser explosives wouldn’t be enough to stop the hostile entities.
The entities are bulletproof and fireproof.
The entities are strong enough to explode a person from the inside and tear off the helicopter doors.
SCP-096
Jumped off the Earth hard enough to get to the sun.
Dr Cimmerian, the author of that tale, published this video a few weeks before publishing that tale. In that video, Cimmerian believes that 096 could “level a city block” by launching himself into space. (11-100 tons of TNT)
In the video game SCP: Containment Breach, in which the author of SCP 096 was involved, the foundation has a nuke meant to destroy the entire facility the game takes place in with a yield of 5 megatons of TNT.
In this game, it is confirmed that 096 is unkillable, consistent with how 096 is portrayed in the main article on 096
The Foundation also has weapons capable of triggering the Yellowstone Supervolcano Eruption (875 Gigatons of TNT) (Debatable)
He was the meteor that killed the dinosaurs (71.702 Teratons of TNT)
He moved the sun
The Travellers/The Old Lands
“Single-handedly waged genocide on about 1/3 of 682's countrymen in the past iteration.”
There was a multiverse that came before the current multiverse. This old multiverse was destroyed, but some of its inhabitants survived via various methods. The previous iteration of the multiverse had a reality that was more flexible and volatile than the current iteration, and any inhabitants that survived are similarly volatile, all being classified as anomalies. The Koitern was one of these entities and became 173 in the current multiverse. It was also a threat to everyone in the old lands, scaling it above any other character that we know comes from the old lands.
SCP-053 - Young Girl:
Described as a “concept of being” that passed from the old universe to the new universe
SCP-682 - Hard-to-Destroy Reptile (NOTE: This version of 682 is very different from other versions of 682):
682 very easily busts through the walls of site 19 and site 83 to free itself and multiple other anomalies.
682 does something to SCP 354, which now no longer works. There are multiple explanations for what 682 could’ve done, which have very different implications
At a low end, it’s possible that 682 just killed a big monster, which makes every other monster too afraid to come through the red pool
At a high end, it’s possible that
682 destroyed the dimension, since 682 seems to be directing its anger at the dimension itself instead of just the big monster. This would make sense because it’s revealed 354 is somewhat sentient, and is sending monsters to our dimension. Scaring one monster wouldn’t stop the dimension from sending other monsters. 354 has a large red star in it, and is described as “another plane of existence”
SCP-993 - Bobble the Clown:
Appears to be bulletproof.
Casually pulls someone’s head off with one hand.
Can destroy the futuristic spacecraft SCP-2578-D with a slingshot.
An alternate version of Bobble can survive being sent through a structural beam and load bearing wall at Mach 1.5, levelling the building.
SCP-1129 - Hyperarousal Response:
Transcends reality via reality warping, which allows them to tank being hit by the shockwave of the destruction of the multiverse
Takes up 3.333 spatial dimensions
SCP-1959 - The Lost Cosmonaut:
It is said to be able to ram through any object it encounters as it orbits the earth, which would mean it’s probably able to easily destroy any satellite, which would include the football field sized International Space Station
Travels at 28,000 km/hr, or Mach 26.4, and tanks the “hundreds of gees of force” from ramming into objects at this speed
The moon champion (SCP 1233) was unable to pull the Lost Cosmonaut away from his orbit. The Moon Champion is capable of punching “open” a giant meteor that was acting as an egg for a 1,000 mile wide dragon (174.57 Exatons of TNT)
The Moon Champion was also capable of moving a giant fireball described as “a miniature blue star”
SCP-682
“The only good news is that about 150 of the bastards teamed up and ripped SCP-682 apart.”
173 and 682 have had multiple interactions, and 173 is almost always portrayed as the superior. While 682 normally toughs it out, it seems the best it can do is defend itself and is never able to properly fight back, and there are some implications that 173 could possibly destroy the hard to destroy reptile under specific circumstances.
Casually causes a magnitude 9.0-9.1 undersea earthquake (9.3 Teratons of tnt)
Capable of growing to the size of Saturn and consuming planets
Created a blackhole (1,807.8 Quettatons of Tnt)
In one tale, it eventually adapted to be big enough to stretch across all of space and destroy galaxies
According to the Black Queen, the universe is much bigger than ours.
Being the size of the scp universe would grant 682 durability of (263 duodecillion - 1 duotrigintillion x Universal)
682 is cited as a threat to the SCP Cosmology on multiple occasions
In SCP, the omniverse is really big
They tried to send 682 to the sun. 682 broke out and flew back to earth in 21 days (Mach 236.5)
682 can ignite a cloud of gas at either lightning or light speed
682 can regenerate faster than over a dozen SCP 314 instances moving at faster than light speeds can slice it.
682 moves while being the size of the universe (6 nonillion c)
682 could to scale to Able, who can create a weapon large enough to slash through the entirety of the bloom, a multiversal construct (315 nonillion x FTL - Infinite)
682 was able to adapt to and fend off SCP 3812, who exists on a higher narrative layer. Narratives contain a reality’s temporal dimensions, so a higher narrative would transcend a lower narrative’s temporal dimensions (Immeasurable)
SCP-MINION….wait what?
“uhhhhh 173 is the msot deafly SCP in the wrold u FUKCIGN MORON!!! u die!!”
Alright, so this tale is a joke article, but as with every other tale made by the Swann entities, it is a canon that the 173 we know and love participates in. In this tale, 173 easily kills a minion from the famous movie franchise Despicable Me. This would scale 173 to the minions, as well as the purple minions, Gru, El Macho, and Vector, as the minions scale to them. According to the lovely G1 Gru vs Megamind Blog:
A purple minion tanks a nuclear weapon going off inside of him (10 tons - 1 kiloton of tnt)
Gru survives getting shot by multiple missiles, including some nuclear ones (40 tons - 4 kilotons of tnt)
El Macho survived the epicentre of an explosion he used to destroy a volcano (322.02 tons - 8.32 kilotons of tnt)
Vector tanked being pulled off the streets at extreme speed by Gru’s rocket (3.83 kilotons of tnt)
This feat is actually more impressive than that, because the moon applied a huge amount of force to Vector’s body over a radius of over a thousand kilometers, netting Vector a durability feat of 115 kilotons See Gru vs Megamind’s stat section of the verdict)
Gru inspires movie Sonic by dodging multiple heat-seeking missiles (Mach 9.57)
Note: I don’t think it’s reasonable to include video game Despicable Me feats, as there’s no evidence that the swann entity was familiar with Gru’s game, as well as Despicable Me 3, as that came out after the tale was created.
Weeping Angel
The Doctor Debatable)
Wouldn’t be a Doctor Who blog without some scaling to The Doctor. The Weeping Angels are narratively always portrayed as a threat to him. Although we at Saul’s VS Blog believe it’s unfair to scale The Weeping Angel to The Doctor’s durability, it’s fair enough to scale him to their speed. Credit to G1’s Rick vs. The Doctor for certain feats and calculations.
The Doctor moved in tandem with Sunlight 53.7%c)
Being generous, Missy stated that The Doctor only had 4 nanoseconds to make thousands of calculations. 6,254c) He likely had less time; Missy was being generous)
The Doctor can process information throughout other universes at speeds inconceivable to the human mind. 3.96984e+3460c)
The Doctor is capable of walking backwards in time to change the past
The Doctor should be comparable to Abslom Daak, a hunter who could fight The Then and Now
The Doctor describes The Then and Now as above, spacetime and a reality gap. If you shoot at it, there’s already a hole, so there’s no point in shooting Immeasurable)
The Then and Now is capable of also keeping up with The TARDIS
The Doctor grabbed an object moving at Super-Infinite Speeds Infinite)
Weaknesses
SCP-173
Being presented as all-powerful doesn’t mean you don’t have weaknesses. For example, 173 struggles when it’s in line of sight. While this can be circumvented if his creator permits him, that requires outside help, and he’s stuck in a state of not being able to look away.
The statue can also be slowed down by various methods. Thick enough mud or similar substances can prevent 173 from moving, with even banana peels being shown as effective. While it does not value life, it does seem to really like rabbits, becoming easily distracted by them.
173 also isn’t unkillable and has died on several occasions. Foundation nukes are capable of neutralising large numbers of SCP 173, and Death Hax appear capable of instantly killing it. It should be noted that there are implications that it can survive nukes and death hax in other stories, implying the nukes and death hax that took it out are particularly potent, but the point still stands that it has limits.
It has a “mind” of some sort, and can be possessed. However, 173’s mind is extremely abrasive and worms its way into whatever mind is possessing it, leaving it indistinguishable from 173’s mind.
If someone with powerful enough mental manipulation is capable of removing 173’s psyche from the statue and putting it somewhere else, the body of the statue will lose its anomalous properties.
Under certain specific circumstances, 173’s bloodlust has been quelled by receiving ample amounts of appreciation and love
Weeping Angel
Despite having evolved the perfect defence mechanism, freezing when another lifeform looks at you can be awful for combat purposes, as Weeping Angels can be caught in a permanent state. Most famously, during Blink, a group of Weeping Angels were tricked into being permanently quantum-locked upon looking at each other.
But they can be locked in multiple different ways. Glass and mirrors seem to do the trick, as an Angel can’t glance at its reflection without that biological defence mechanism kicking in. When River Song was getting chased by Major Arcana, she used Dean's inherent electrical powers to shock the sand and convert it into glass, which locked Major Arcana in place temporarily. But even something as simple as crowds, groups of fish, or anything large in numbers can keep a Weeping Angel in status.
Weeping Angels also must feed. If they don’t, their bodies will start to decay and fall apart, causing damage similar to bone decay within the Weeping Angel. Of course, this takes millions of years, but it is worth mentioning.
Weeping Angels also seem to be weak to Mind Control. Before they died, Time Lords were capable of making a necklace that forced a Weeping Angel to do whatever the person commanded, acting as a personal hitman to a lady who was zapped by them.
Before The Verdict
Can the Blahaj prevent this whole fight from occurring in the first place?
The Blahaj is an interesting wrinkle, since it prevents characters from fighting in the first place, and one is permanently attached to 173. If a weeping angel came into the vicinity of the Blahaj attached to 173, it would also likely come under its effects and become non hostile. While the weeping angels have no brain, and thus no way to have increased levels of serotonin and dopamine, the same could be said for 939, which the Blahaj is somehow able to pacify.
The Blahaj will be removed from this fight, as it would prevent the fight from happening if it was there.
Is 173 Sledgehammer Level?
Normally, the durability of a character isn’t too tricky to determine. Thanks to physics, AP and Durability are usually at the same level. But the way 173’s powers work throw a wrinkle into that, since sometimes it snaps necks or tears things apart telekinetically instead or physically, possibly implying 173’s AP could be way higher than its durability, supported by several anti feats.
To establish a baseline, feats like surviving in the sun and its own movement speed would already grant it way higher durability than a normal person with a sledgehammer could deal with. It’s reasonable to posit that the reality anchors had a hand in lowering 173’s anomalous durability. So City Block to Town level is the lowest we could reasonably be able to scale 173’s durability. To figure out the high end, we need to ask the question:
Is 173 Universal?
173 has a lot of interesting cosmic scaling arguments, and I think it’d be best to tackle them one by one.
Are all travellers conceptual beings and thus outerversal? No, their nature is conceptual, but their bodies don’t have any indication of being that strong.
Is the Travellers' version of 682 universal for destroying the Red Reality? Maybe, but there’s not enough evidence to say for certain without supporting evidence. If anything, it could just be star level, which would be consistent with the moon champion scaling.
Does 173 have a higher dimensional AP for being a threat to the 3.333D SCP 1129? Maybe, but 1129’s nature is incredibly vague, and it’s hard to draw conclusions based on that. It’d be easier to say 173 can negate 1129’s resistance to normal 3.0D attacks.
Does 173 fully scale to 682? That is the big question. 682’s nature and capabilities are constantly different based on the context, so we need to take this on a case-by-case basis. Two big indicators of 173 scaling to 682 are when 150 copies of 173 tore apart 682, and 173 being capable of killing 682 and its people in the traveller’s canon. While 173 tearing apart 682 is a vague statement, and it’s possible 682 came back to life later, it is notable that the fight was brought up at all. If the 173’s just jumped 682, beat it up and left, it’d be weird to bring up a relatively uneventful event, since 682 getting beat up is pretty commonplace. And in the Traveller’s canon, 173 is very blatantly a threat to 682, as he committed genocide on his people.
So, how strong are the two versions of 682 that 173 scales to? In the story where 173 tears 682 apart, 173 also dies to nukes, so 173 likely doesn’t scale to 682 in durability. So it’s likely 173 was blitzing and tearing apart 682 with a AP higher than 682’s scaling. We can assume this is probably how the fight would go in the traveller’s canon as well.
So here’s why killing or at least incapacitating 682 is crazy. The main article is canon to basically every version of 682, and the list of termination attempts is part of that main article. That list of termination attempts has some of 682’s craziest feats, like 682 not getting blitzed by the immeasurable 3812.
There’s also the Abel scaling, which is another weird bit of continuity. Abel has a feat of being mftl+ to infinite speed, as well as infinite ap, but it’s very possible that isn’t his normal level of power, as that is a one time feat, and he lost his powers after that. But it’s also possible he does downscale somewhat, since he’s always drawing from that infinite power source, and his brothers and father have similar scaling.
There are reasons to buy universal and infinite-immeasurable speed 173, especially since it’s never shown to have been outsped in a fight, but at the end of the day it’s up to interpretation.
The Doctor Scaling
Hi, Saul here. I’m going to justify my scaling of The Weeping Angels to The Doctor. Why? Because some might be confused as to why I’m not scaling them in AP. Simply put, the Weeping Angels have never been shown to pose a physical threat to The Doctor.
This makes sense narratively. The Weeping Angels are all about sending you back in time and don’t try to kill people, with the only occasion they’ve done so being with Father Octavian when they were scared. While some might argue they scale because The Doctor let out a scream of pain when grabbed. Well, they didn’t restrain him, and they were capable of breaking out of their grasp quickly.
Is the Sun's survival an Outlier?
In the durability section of this blog, you might notice what might seem like an outlier feat. The Weeping Angels are thrown into the sun by the 10th and 13th Doctors. An impressive feat, but isn’t this an outlier? A grenade has damaged Weeping Angels?
My sweet summer child, context matters. Those Weeping Angels who were damaged by grenades were starving, claiming bodies from WW1 didn’t give them much potential energy due to soldiers not having long lives to live. Compare that to the Weeping Angels that 10 and 13 encounter, who are well-fed.
So, no, this isn’t an outlier feat.
Verdict
Stats
So, stats. We’ll be breaking them down into two different ends. Direct, and scaling, as it’s up to interpretation on how much you believe these two should scale to their highest ends.
As for Direct feats, Weeping Angels takes these. Weeping Angels' best feat would be directly scaling to being at the centre of the sun, which gets to 764.04 tons of TNT. 173, at its direct end, would get to 9.84 Tons of TNT for surviving a White Dwarf Star.
As for speed, 173 should be anywhere between Mach 97.2 -233.2. Impressive, but ineffective in the face of Weeping Angels. That universal travel Weeping Angels can do gets to 300.21 Trillion times the Speed of Light, an absolute speed blitz.
But when we throw scaling into this, it gets thrown off. Let’s start super simple and look at speed. At a high-end, The Weeping Angels are capable of keeping up with The Doctor, who has multiple immeasurable and infinite speed feats. 173 should be comparable to Able via SCP 682, who was capable of slashing through the bloom. This gets anywhere from 315 nonillion X FTL-Infinite speed.
As for AP? 682 creating a black hole should get it to the Quettatons, far above the 764 tons of TNT that Weeping Angels scale to. Of course, this comes with how lenient you are with 682 scaling.
So, for this category, we’re going to give it to The Weeping Angels. They’re far stronger and faster at normal ends, only losing that advantage when we move into scaling, with speed being the same through The Doctor.
Abilities
Let’s go into the hardest part of this debate, the abilities. Let’s knock out the elephant in the room: how does either get around their quantum locking defence mechanism, and if they’re quantum locked, is the fight over with? Well, let’s get something out of the way: switching off the lights is going to be something that doesn’t work for this fight, as they both can see in the dark. What does work is the constant creation of mist and making lights so bright they’re blinding. Not only that, but terrain and objects in the area can be used as makeshift blockages. Even if they get caught eye to eye, 173 can produce its liquids onto Weeping Angels, which would cause it to be unobserved.
Let’s talk over some abilities; the two of them are capable of many things, but some don’t matter to this battle. Shapeshifting, sense of smell, and adhesion, all of these abilities are going to be useless in the long run. Immorality is non-applicable to combat. Applicable things, such as the waste production, can be countered by Weeping Angels, both sticking to walls and directly flying. Weeping Angels can cast their forms through images, and even BFR you through them, but that’s way too location-specific to be something serious for the fight.
Possession and Mind Manipulation also wouldn’t work on 173. While it does have a mind that can be affected, 343 wasn’t capable of permanently changing 173, and it should be able to resist 993's mind control. If the two locked eyes and a Weeping Angel entered into 173, it would only likely cause minor illusions within the monster.
Weeping Angels come swinging out of the gates with a huge wincon, BFR. Weeping Angels can BFR you to a bunch of different times, and 173 has never shown any resistance to being BFR’rd. Given that this is the main way that Weeping Angels love to kill, this is a tactic they’re likely to open with. This would take 173 out of the fight long enough for The Angels would get a win via incapacitation. Boring, sure, but something likely to happen. Even if you want to give 173 the benefit of the doubt, since it’s not technically dead, 173 would have to play perfectly for hundreds of years. If it, for example, tries to kill someone, this could cause a butterfly effect that just causally ends 2/3rds of the universe.
As for their duplication tactics, this advantage goes to 173. Not only does 173’s duplication not require any prerequisites, compared to Weeping Angels, who have to absorb time energy, but 173’s duplication would only serve to enhance the stat gap more. Remember, enough clones of 173 were capable of doing significant damage to base SCP-682. Even if Weeping Angels were capable of consuming enough time energy to create clones, these start as baby Cherubs that need to evolve into full Weeping Angels. While Wink displays a small period, at most twenty minutes, that’s still twenty minutes where these Weeping Angel clones are useless. Duplication should also be a way to get around the quantum locking, as 173 could spawn a clone of itself out of view.
However, it’s not like 173’s clones are invincible. They don’t come with any special resistances, and Weeping Angels should be capable of just BFR’ing them with a touch. Which leads us into potential energy.
The bigger the meal, the more energy that Weeping Angels get. As long as they get energy during this fight, they can keep on battling. We know that they’re capable of regenerating from nothing, as seen when The Doctor blows one up, so as long as Angels keep getting energy, the fight can continue. Sending 173 back in time, who is immortal, would give Weeping Angels theoretically infinite energy. Even at a lowball, millions of years.
173 also can’t permanently kill Weeping Angels. While it can slow it down, long-ranged neck snapping, for example, is a great ability. Weeping Angels have regenerated from being blown up into nothing by The Doctor. While SCP 173 has some regeneration negation, such as Bobbles the Clown and SCP 682, it needs multiple deaths for this to take place. Even then, 173’s regeneration negation is a little questionable. While it can kill SCP 682, we struggle to see what exactly happened and how powerful 682 got before 173 killed it. Even then, we don’t even know if 173 permanently killed 682, as it’s only described as taking it apart.
As for the final nail in the coffin, Weeping Angels have far better win-cons. 173 is playing a long game here, having to avoid BFR to not feed a Weeping Angel and wait until it starves out. The Bone Decay effect seemed to be a permanent ability that not even a Weeping Angel could regenerate from. So, if 173 could stall, it could potentially permanently put down a Weeping Angel if it never gets a BFR hit. Unfortunately, starvation takes millions of years, and even something like radiation can fully restore a Weeping Angel in a matter of minutes. Outside of BFR, The Kiss of An Angel and turning 173 into exploding stone are two wincons that Angels have. We know that turning 173 into a pile of nothingness is a consistent way to put it down, as at that point, it can only trip people up.
So, with all of this being said, this category goes to The Weeping Angels.
Any Other Factors
In terms of experience, 173 dominates this category. While both typically prey on those who are defenceless and have been around before their respective universe beginnings, 173 has more experience fighting those who are incredibly deadly. While Weeping Angels have gone against The Doctor and have been stated to destroy inhabited worlds, 173 fighting SCPS like 682 means that they have much better direct combat experience.
As for intelligence? Well, there’s no question that Weeping Angels take this. Between setting up human farms, causing time paradoxes to feed, and constantly outsmarting The Doctor, someone who can do thousands of calculations in seconds, means that this doesn’t have any likelihood for debate.
As for their armies/duplicates, both of our combatants are described as hive minds with no real advantage in that department. 173’s army is more potent, upping itself in strength and having the ability to look at each other and not quantum-lock. However, Weeping Angels can still produce more of themselves. 173, being immortal, means that its potential energy is going to be off the chart. The more 173s that get created, the more that the Weeping Angels can zap with BFR and feed. So, who takes the army? It’s arguably a tie. 173 has an easier time creating its army, with many potent advantages such as a strength buff and quantum-locking being a non-issue, but the Weeping Angels have enough tools to reproduce their army, even though it’ll take some planning and set up.
So overall, this category is a tie. It comes down to what you, the reader, deem more important. Is having that direct combat experience more important to you? Or is intelligence? We’ll go over what we think in our conclusion.
Conclusion
This debate is truly fascinating and one I never expected to get so complex. With both combatants being super strong, this became far closer than we both expected. 173 has some strong advantages. Being physically stronger, that far more experienced combatant in combat, and the ability to starve The Weeping Angels to a weakened enough state where 173 could get a win isn’t impossible.
However, the Weeping Angels just have so many advantages going for them. Firstly, BFR is a hard win-con to work around. 173 doesn’t have a counter for this, and given the potential energy, 173, this is a tactic that the Weeping Angels are likely to employ. All it takes is one touch, and the fight is over. Either through incapacitation, or 173 killing an individual in the past and causing its universe to end. If 173 could get past the BFR, the Kiss of an Angel or transmutation, both of which would reduce 173 to dust, are instant-win options that Weeping Angels could employ. Given their intelligence and the amount of time they have in this battle, this is a strategy they can employ.
Even if 173 managed to get a good hit in on a Weeping Angel, which is possible thanks to its long-range neck snapping, Weeping Angels can regenerate from nothingness, meaning that 173 is going to have to starve Weeping Angels out until they’re weak enough to be killed.
Our winner is Weeping Angels.
Conclusion
SCP-173
Advantages:
Far stronger given any scaling
Can snap necks from range, giving an instant kill option
Far more experienced in fighting deadly foes like other SCPS
Could starve the Weeping Angels out if the fight went on long enough
Can’t accidentally quantum-lock itself with its clones
While it has a better duplication and numbers advantage…
Started this long SCP Journey
My favourite one to play in Secret Lab (Saul)
Equal:
Speed at the highest of ends for both
Hive Mind physiology makes all duplicates/flocks work well together
Possession cancels each other out
Both can get around quantum locking through mist, poop, and other haxes.
Both can see in the dark.
Disadvantages:
Weaker and far slower than Weeping Angels at direct ends
BFR’ing 173 is an always accessible instant win option that 173 doesn’t have a counter to
Exploding 173 into rubble is an instant kill option
Flight means that the Weeping Angels can avoid 173's goop
Way less cunning and manipulative.
There is no easy way to get past the Weeping Angel regeneration
It constantly feeds Weeping Angels, which can keep BFR’ing them
True form can’t enter the fight lol.
Its main anomaly is shitting itself.
Lost to a banana peel.
Weeping Angel
Advantages:
Far stronger and way faster at the highest ends
173 possesses no workaround to BFR.
Exploding 173 into rubble is an instant-win option.
Far more intelligent, manipulative, and tricky.
Flight gives it far better mobility and ways to avoid 173's goop
Regeneration means that 173 has no way to permanently put it down, even at its highest ends
While it can create duplicates and clones through BFR…
Got slightly saved by schoolchildren in the blog.
The scariest Doctor Who antagonist.
Equal:
Speed at the highest of ends for both
Hive Mind physiology makes all duplicates/flocks work well together
Possession cancels each other out
Both can get around quantum locking through mist, poop, and other haxes.
Both can see in the dark.
Disadvantages:
Far weaker with any scaling
Far less experienced with fighting deadly foes
Can’t attack from range like 173
Could theoretically starve to death, if it went on that long
It can accidentally quantum lock itself with clones
...this requires set-up and is far harder than 173’s duplication methods.
Why did Steven Moffat show you guys moving.
Scared Saul until he was like 14.
Votes
Team SCP-173- 0
Team Weeping Angel- 2 (Saul, Sherm)
Conclusion
Thank you for reading SCP 173 VS The Weeping Angels. I know this isn’t your typical blog, but I had fun working on it. Thank you to Sherm of Fan Battle, who worked on this with me, always a pleasure.
As for me? Life has been weird. Between my new medication and getting the help I need through therapy, i'm definitely on a path to getting better. But it’s difficult. I’m still filled with regret over alot of things in my life, and dealing with the sum of my actions has been difficult. Days get a lot more lonely, you know?
I do want to thank everyone who's stuck by me during these hard times, even if I haven’t been my best. Especially Sherm. You see, this blog was planned before my mental health spiral, and I didn’t know if it would ever come out due to this. But Sherm finished all the 173 research when I was sorting myself out.
Just, remember to cherish your friends. Love you guys ♥️
